Hate Comes to Main Street

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When Christian Nationalists Say They Want to Destroy Democracy, Believe Them

“Now’s the time to gaslight them into thinking that democracy is a right-wing project," podcaster reveals during election night conversation

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Phil Williams
Mar 11, 2026
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Election night 2024 podcast from Gainesboro, Tennessee, with Christian nationalist author Stephen Wolfe in upper right. (Screenshot, Contra Mundum)

It was election night of 2024, and some of the most anti-democratic voices in America were waiting to find out if their candidate, Donald Trump, would be elected the next president of the United States.

What they revealed during an almost nine-hour podcast marathon provides an eye-opening look into the challenge America now faces. As the video from that evening shows, far-right figures are determined to get their way politically — even if it means abandoning long-held democratic norms.

And they do not mind “gaslighting” America about their true intentions.

Looking back, I am reminded of Maya Angelou’s admonition: “When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time."

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